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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assessing a game concept is much the same idea. If it can be described in few words, and those few words are enough for someone to say "cool", the it has a good chance of spreading far with word of mouth.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You simply don't explain games to others, just as you don't explain jokes. It's pointless. Play and enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things.
First; Read Dead Redemption is helluva entertaining.
Second; Am I the only one that is worried about Metroid other M? http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-10-metroid-other/702036#comments_top
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few things:

I would always take a pure 2D Metroid game over anything else -- but that's wishful thinking. I'll save how I feel about the game until I've actually played it. I can't glean enough from just a few short videos (also: I refuse to watch as many videos as possible so I don't spoil the experience. What is it with video games journalism? Is nothing sacred? I feel like I've played half the games I own before I even put the disc into my console [Yeah, I'm looking at you--coverage for Mass Effect 2!]).

A lot of people complain that certain games aren't "real" metroid. What the hell does that even mean? I think what they mean to say is: "This isn't Super Metroid". If you want to play Super Metroid again, then go and play Super Metroid again. The franchise hasn't been "real" Metroid since any game after Super, anyway. Fusion had a lot of dialog and pseudo cut-scenes. Zero Mission had prodding the way of telling you where to go. Prime series was radically different. Hunters was just Prime tried to fit into a DS. I think people just miss the sense of isolation, exploration, and immersion. That is, it's not "real" Metroid unless it has all those things. Eh it's a tough call. On the one hand you want Nintendo to keep making more Super Metroids. On the other hand, you don't want it to get stale, so you start introducing new concepts. It's not a bad thing. At least it's something new. I don't think I could take another pure FPS (although I would buy it and play the shit out of it, regardless).

I'm just glad they are keeping the series alive. I hope it doesn't get far enough that they need to do a "reboot". I would much rather prefer they start some new Sci-Fi IP that isn't Metroid, instead. Actually, everyone in general should just make either more fantasy based or sci-fi based non FPS games in general. What the hell?

Some other stuff about nostalgia that I don't feel like writing about goes here.

Sentence about how Nintendo sucks at promoting the Metroid series.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow you really wimped out on your rant there at the end!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everyone here is pretty in-tune with how I feel about Metroid. :]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"sonrisu" backwards is "metroid"... ok, not really. ;)
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It's not, but I always thought Usirnos would be a neat character name. Maybe in my next game. Or maybe in Nevervall. Robot doesn't have a name. ;]

Interestingly enough, though, now that I'm thinking about it. It's pretty obvious I'm a Metroid nut around here. I know mikedoty is in love with Petey the Piranha and plays SuperMarioGalaxy like a fiend. Bean likes to kill people online in fighters. But...

I feel like not enough people here are really in-tune with some game and/or some game series. What gives? Are you all just waiting to come out of your favorite game closet?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Hawk betrayed me after the 7th sequel.

I think I know too much about the games industry to have any fanboy left in me, but I am required to play/own any game by the Disgaea team at Nippon Ichi (ZOMG Disgaea 4 was announced!), every Castlevania in the style of SOTN, every Dragon Quest, and it would be safe to say I have $70 set aside for Diablo 3. Mmm...

Actually going back, Megaman (X) used to be my game... but you all know how many of those cookie cutter sequels we got. I still make an effort to play the 2D Metroidvania ones. Metroid at least, they didn't dilute the franchise until they went 3D.

I think for me though, I don't look up to these games anymore. Instead, as a game developer I want to beat them. That's what's changed.

Also: Commodore 64.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get Megaman Zero series. So good. It will bring back Megaman X nostalgia. :]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the Zero series is good. Though I'm playing Dragon Quest 9 right now, and am reminded how much my (giant) hands don't like the DS. I need to go check retail and see if the DSi LL is any better for me. I toyed with one briefly at GDC, but it had been a while since I seriously played a DS game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I feel like not enough people here are really in-tune with some game and/or some game series.


I'm a ginormous Ultima fan; like you are with Metroid, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vacation. Yes!
(not going to write any code I presume but I've already drawn more than usual and looking forward to two three-day heavy metal festivals, one per each of the following two weeks)

Heh, pointless off-topic post I guess, just to express my happiness (yay, I'm happy right now).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis wrote:
Vacation. Yes!
(not going to write any code I presume but I've already drawn more than usual and looking forward to two three-day heavy metal festivals, one per each of the following two weeks)

Heh, pointless off-topic post I guess, just to express my happiness (yay, I'm happy right now).


How dare you try to drag this thread down with your happiness!

Three day heavy metal festival sounds intense, like camping. Sounds like a lot of fun. ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, camping! Leaving for the first one in an hour or two.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I wish they had metal festivals where I live. You Europeans get all the good stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Belgium, which is like the world center for music festivals. We have Rock Werchter (which was voted best festival by artists a few times), Pukkelpop (Daft Punk Alive in 2007 for example), Dour (Mike Patton is almost a resident there), Lokerse Feesten (programs old stuff that is still touring, like Sex Pistols and new stuff you don't want to hear, like Snoop Dogg). Then there's like a metric fucktonne of small ones for everything from 3 days of nothing but metal to reggae all day.

Favorite game series for me might be Heroes of Might and Magic. That series really did well at staying fresh and still providing exactly the same experience throughout.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone recognize this fine fellow?:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1887-Video-Games-Bad-Writing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Anyone recognize this fine fellow?:


Actually, no? That's a good rant, though.

Speaking of bad dialog, or at least very, very bad voice acting, I now have Arc Rise Fantasia. After the week I've had, I think I'm ready to disappear for a few days and jRPG my ass off.
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I started Persona 3 (FES) last night. I will be returning to it again tonight.
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Bought Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits (PS2) used on Amazon today. Should here within two weeks. I've never played it before, but it seemed fairly interesting watching my (now) ex-girlfriend play it way back when it was first released.

My games queue is getting longer and longer. Just in the last month, I've acquired FFX, FFX-2, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, A Boy and His Blob, Bushido Blade, and now Arc.

...gonna be busy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sitting down to play a little Final Fantasy X, I remembered this MP3 file I've had sitting on my computer for darn near a decade. If my old-man memory isn't faulty, I downloaded it from a gaming article I was reading back when FFX was still in development; it said it was the battle theme. Obviously it isn't. I haven't heard it in-game, in any other game, or seen any mention of it anywhere. But it definitely sounds like a Final Fantasy tune...

http://www.tofusplace.net/junk/ffxbattle.mp3

Anybody know where this is from? Unused track from an early beta or something?
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Admittedly I've not paid attention to Final Fantasy music in years, but it sounds like a "MIDI Era" (PS1?) battle theme for lack of a better name. I was pretty sure with FFX+ they started using modern virtual instruments. Here's one of the older libraries that continues to be bundled and repackaged. I'm pretty sure parts of that one are well over 10 years old, though still sound pretty good. The main set is 12 GB, but that specific bundle includes 35 GB of 24bit recorded strings with multiple mics to keep things modern. You can compare that to the 5+ year old king of orchestra, that sits in at 138 GB (including multiple mic positions, suitable for surround sound mixing). Or the recently released "just the strings" 310 GB monster. If you can't hear a difference, you need better speakers. ;)

Yeah these days, real orchestras in game and movie soundtracks are rare.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like PoV said, I was thinking of either something PS1-era, or a remix. I've played 1-9, and 12, and haven't heard anything quite like that. Considering that 10 would have likely been started during the end of the PS1-era, they likely had a build going with older music to test things out.

Also, eeeh.
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