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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Every Ultima cloth map I own (pics) Reply with quote

I'm missing the map from Ultima II. It's very rare, and I just haven't been lucky enough to snag one. Other than that, I have the maps to Ultima 1, which were never printed on cloth, unfortunately. I have the maps for Ultima 3-9, including 7 part 2. I don't bother with the various Ultima spin-offs since they didn't have cloth maps. I also have a few extra maps that I somehow ended up with in my quest for completion.





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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh the memories!
Back when PC games were awesome and gave you not just a disk but a box full of greatness.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful. People put so much effort into imaginary cartography, and it impresses me no end every time I see it. To have an actual cloth map of a fake place i've actually been too... the mind boggles. That will make some nice wall furniture :P
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trivia:

Look at the bottom right map on the first pic, then look at the top left map on the third pic. Notice any similarities? As it turns out, Serpent Isle (from Ultima 7, part 2) is actually one of the original continents featured in Ultima 1, known as the Land of Danger and Despair.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bean wrote:
Back when PC games were awesome and gave you not just a disk but a box full of greatness.


Exception: The Witcher.
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Dude, yes! Nerd envy is high.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Ultima Online came with a cloth map of Britannia. I'm debating whether or not I want to get this...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your OCD will never forgive you if you don't!

Is it normal for me to be drooling while watching those pictures?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you know when to stop, otherwise, well, you could become this guy:

http://www.idsa.net/ultima/

(Scroll down and look at his maps!)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, paper maps don't count.

What I was going to say, before I got distracted... heh... is that he has a pretty damn nice collection. I tossed all my old boxes years ago (ran out of room in the house for all my gaming shit) but kept the manuals boxed up. Now, as far as maps go I'm only concerned with those of the cloth variety, and I don't care for having multiple flavors of any given map -- but that's what separates a collector from a fanatic ;) So, now that I know about UO, I'm actually missing two maps. The UO map will be easy to get... the other... not so much.


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This just in: Richard Garriott is an idiot
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He's an astronaut.
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Quote:

This just in: Richard Garriott is an idiot


I said that when he sold out to EA. Then again, apparently it wasn't a big deal to pony up the ~25 mil it takes to get into space, so...
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Collecting stuff is sweet. My problem with it is that I'm just not dedicated enough to shell out the cash. I'd love to be like this with Metroid stuff. Alas, the only Metroid I collect is just each of the games. Would love to get my hands on MII in the box, actually.

I miss the days when games came with cool shit in them. Maps like this. Seems like ATLUS is trying their best to revive that.
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Atlus has been doing alright on that front, as has NIS. Working Designs RPG's tend to include some sort of trinket. I was pretty sure I saw some recent one with something, but I can't remember what it was.

Cross Edge and Class of Heroes showed up the other day. Kinda disappointed they didn't include *something*.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should try to finish Ultima III. Sosaria!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the UO map around for the longest time.. I must have sold it with the game or something because I can't find it now. It'd be yours if I had it.

Well like you said, that one's probably fairly easy to find.
I've still got my UO beta CD though :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! I'm too young to have memories of anything before VII, which was my first Ultima(and still the best imo), which at the time I got it, it was already as a repacked CD version (both parts) but that version didn't ship with a map and since I lost my copy of Pagan, the only map I have left is the one from U9 (which I never finished due to annoying bugs and also my machine was not fast enough back then to run it very well).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U7 is still one of the best in the series, no doubt. You could easily play it for months and not see all the content in the game. As you said, U9 was a total disappointment, that was so buggy I could never finish it. I ran into a bug where the ship you use for travel "got lost". Yeah... just great.

Unfortunately, the older Ultimas don't age very well, so it's difficult to recommend going back to play them. They feature klunky interfaces, grim and unforgiving rules, and without a walkthrough can take 200+ hours to actually beat. Running on modern hardware helps... I remember playing U4 and remembering the horrible lag just from moving. I could quickly tap out a set of moves and watch as the player slowly made his way across the screen... heh. Good times.
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If I had a wish free, I'd wish for having unlimited quantities of time for myself that I could spend doing what I want to do.

In that case I'd probably play the older parts, would not tackle them without a walkthrough though, and I'd even try to play U9 again... hm thinking about it, one thing would be even better: walkthroughs of the old games that are written in novel form and lightened up with screenshots and trivia... I could then just read these to experience the worlds and stories without having to spend all that time playing the games... well even better would be a video documentary about it, so I could just kick back watch and listen. :)
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You really don't want to waste your time with U9. I can't really decide if U8 is worse than U9, but at the very least 9 just feels like some completely different game that has a few Ultima-esque attributes tacked on.

I went back a few years ago and properly finished U2 and U3. They are actually remarkably simple to finish when you aren't running them on a slow-ass C64 and know what you're supposed to do.
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U8 was an overly complicated Diablo.
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Just to see whether I could in theory(if I actually had money) get some of the Ultima games on Ebay I searched around a bit and found this shop: http://stores.shop.ebay.de/Games-4u-Shop__W0QQ_armrsZ1

At the time I'm writing this, there is a copy of Ulitma II with cloth map available for about 280 Euros :o ...must be rare indeed.

edit: The same shop also has Ultima I (for 300 Euros) and by telling from the picture the maps are printed on cloth.

edit2: pics copied from the shop:



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's weird. It's a japanese release, and it actually has all four maps condensed to one rectangular cloth map. I've never heard of or seen that anywhere. T'would probably be impossible for me to get my mitts on without plunking down obscene cash, so I won't worry about it too much. Those are in cherry condition, too -- fuckin' sick.


Edit:

Link detailing the japanese versions
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